The Path to Quadrupling your Prices Whilst Staying in Total Integrity with The Spiral™ (Part 2 of 3)
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How Much Can I Charge As a Spiral Practitioner?
The Spiral™ is a very clear, structured, systematic process that you learn as the practitioner. And then you go through the experience. And then you can take others through that same experience. So if you're coming across from corporate and are just kind of letting your magical self out into the open, or you're starting a business, or you want to add to your modality toolkit, this is a kind of plug and play process that is an offering in unto itself.
So you can immediately add this offering into your toolkit or add in your other genius to this process and go, “Hey, I know that if I just take someone through this process and follow these steps over these sessions, I'm going to change someone's life in a really radical and wonderful way and be able to charge appropriately for that.”
Spiral practitioners are kind of charging anywhere between $1000 to $2,000 for a program when they first begin. Anywhere up to… you know, to go through Spiral with me is $50,000. It depends on the level of expertise and the level of other skills that you bring into it, of course, but the process is valuable in itself. So when you learn it, you kind of come out immediately with an offering that you can start marketing while you're even going through the training. So lots of Spiral practitioners signed up clients while they were in the training. And so they finished the training and were immediately able to go out and start making money and changing lives and helping people.
Bianca: Yeah. And even when I went through it, I think I was selling before that $6,000 Body Confidence Project, six months to $6,000. Then I was selling other people's programs for like $12,000. I went through The Spiral™ prac training and I started charging $30k and then $60k because I was able to combine it with the skills and experience I already had.
And I'm not saying that it's like you believe it until you charge your worth or you'll believe it when you see it. I was able to charge that because I shifted my positioning in how I saw myself and also valued what I could help other people transform in a holistic sense within their business, their life and the results they were achieving. So it's not like you just slap a big, expensive price tag or something.
Kylie: That's not the point.
Bianca: It was that to the right people who received that value, those clients were able to monetize on that within weeks. So they hadn't even paid for the full program and they'd already tripled their investment and they hadn't paid me back yet.
Kylie: Right. That’s the piece. It's not just about, “Oh, you can charge whatever you want for this.” Obviously we are absolutely about congruence and absolutely about integrity and absolutely about delivering incredible value to your clients. And it's that kind of sweet spot where you can bring your genius to this method. And depending on the avatar or the market or the person that you're working with, depending on the other skills that you bring, there's a whole bunch of factors in play, but this is what's possible. From just starting out, you could be taking people through The Spiral™ and charging very reasonably charging $2,000 to take someone through a three-month program of the The Spiral™.
Bianca: What does that work out to be per session?
Kylie: It's about $150 to $200 per session, depending on how you structure the program. So, yeah, it's $150 an hour. You come into the training and you do 10 days of live intensive online training with us, broken up over three event chunks. And then you can immediately walk out and be earning $150 an hour, training and taking people through this work. It's amazing.
Bianca: I'm just going to rewind back because I write notes down and I'm like, “That's a good point! That's a good point!” When she comes up for air then I'll say it.
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Bianca: I was just gonna say that this will be right for you if you're able to suspend disbelief, if you're able to have that detached curiosity. This is really good for you if you had like a secret passion or you're secretly gifted and you haven't yet let that out of the bag yet. And I really love it because it's not even like you have to articulate, you can just be drawn to it. And I think it's really funny. Some of our friends who run 7-figure businesses, that have multi-million dollar businesses, and they're like, “Hey, Kyles…” (throws down their credit card) “I'm going to do your thing. Let me do your thing. Just put it down.”
It's like they don't need to articulate so much about it except to know that showing up will help them be just a better human for themselves, for their team, for their business.
Kylie: Exactly. The Spiral™ is absolutely holistic and systemic. I nearly said hysteric, which is a different thing, but systemic. Sometimes hysteric. Systemic and holistic.
What actually is "the work" that you're doing in The Spiral™?
So just by the nature of working through the chakra system, working through the five levels of being and really systematically cleaning up... it's kind of like… you know how when you used to have to defragment your computer and it would kind of go through and do all those little boxes and it would systematically move from the beginning to the end, all the way through the code and clean up all the little funky bits or the bits that were distorted or out of whack. That's kind of like what The Spiral™ does.
We work systematically through 22 different emotions and we root clear 22 different emotions, which helps us access three significant events per emotion. So we're clearing 66 emotional experiences, core emotional experiences, through your entire life, that form the foundational parts of who you are and how you show up to life. It’s almost like a spiritual colonic. It’s like if you've got your pipes and they're a bit kind of stuck up or something, we clear the pipes and let all of the flow start flowing again.
Bianca: When you're talking about that too, I just thought of all the digital code of the matrix. You know? Reordering it so that you can create something different and because it's coming internally and shifting externally, you don't leave anything behind that's important to you. I think in the coaching industry people have a lot of frustrations around just approaching issues from a strategic perspective without really acknowledging that it’s the person driving the strategy that makes the biggest difference. Because when you can look at things with more clarity in the whole picture of your life, you will create that cascade of epic transformation in every area of your life.
Kylie: Through everything! And because of that systemic nature - it's going to positively effect every part of your life. You might come with the intention to make more money and grow your business, but in order to make more money and grow your business, you also have to clean up maybe your personal relationships, or maybe there's something with your mother, or your father, or your brother, or your sister, or your great aunt Mabel or whoever. And so all of that gets cleaned up in the process too. We find that it's almost like you come in and you get your intention, but you also get all these bonus things that needed to be cleaned up. They also get sorted out too.
So, if The Spiral™ is going to bring up all my "shit" - am I going to have to talk about traumatic events from my past?
Bianca: And just to point out too, you might have something that happened at the age of one and three and five. Those things will come up in your energy field, but it's not like you have to go and talk about it and relive the trauma and the experience. It's like this is actually helping you see how the pattern has been rippling through and recreating itself. And you can clear that from your energetic field so that you can short circuit it, so it doesn't have to keep on replaying. And that's actually quite a quick experience. That's quite a quick transformation.
Kylie: The transformation part, that's such an important point, B. You absolutely do not have to spill your guts, you do not have to talk through your history, talk through various traumas or situations that you might've been through.
Bianca: You don't even have to consciously know that that's the thing that happened.
It's like, “Oh, actually I can see how that is playing out in my life. I don't know when it started.” But your body, your spirit, is actually coming out and telling you.
How you can use The Spiral Technology to pin point dysfunctional unconscious patterns and choose a different one that serves you better.
Kylie: Yeah, your body knows your spirit knows. It's like through the muscle testing, we just get to shine a little spotlight on the pattern that's happening. It's like, “Oh, now I can see that pattern.” Then we draw our consciousness to it. It's like, “Oh, do I want to choose to keep running this pattern? Or do I want to choose to let go of this pattern?” I often use this metaphor of like when you're at a party and you ate an hors d'oeuvre and then suddenly you’ve got some parsley in your teeth. You don't walk around and go, “Oh, I've got parsley on my teeth. Oh, I'll just leave it there and keep walking on.”
The minute that you see that there's some things like, “Oh, I've got to get that off.” So the minute that you see some pattern, that's not working for you and you shine the light of your consciousness on it, you see it, it's like it immediately starts to dissolve and you start to create choice around how you want to behave moving forward. And so this kind of ripple effect happens almost instantaneously. And we can shift the emotions and so magical using the Meridian fields and the energetic pathways of the body. And so you can kind of like unstick that emotion really quickly. That said, sometimes it might take months or even a year or so for the full effects to be felt.
Bianca: And how it shows up in all the different areas of your life, because it's like… I use the analogy of, you know how when you go back to your old childhood neighborhood and you realize everything looks so different to your memory? It's kind of like if you as a five-year-old drew a map in crayon and tried to direct yourself on how to get here and here and here, it'd be super weird if you're still using that as a map as a 40-year-old. Essentially that's what you're doing, but you'd never know until you go back and update that crayon drawing into an actual GPS.
So by having that awareness, by looking at the patterns, and then you go, “Oh, well, that's a weird way to be doing things. I'll just upgrade it.”
And that's how quick it can happen, but you maybe don't realize how you're still maybe using that crayon drawing in your relationships, in another area of your life. So that's the unpacking that can happen on a short-term, on a micro level, as well as a longer macro level, as you also come up that new level, old devil kind of thing.
What kind of unexpected positive effects can play out in your life as a result of doing The Spiral?
Kylie: Totally. The change part can happen in an instant, but sometimes it's the integration and they’re fully like… now I get to almost be surprised by, “Oh, I'm not insecure in this situation, so now I can ask for that raise, or I can make that pitch, or I can double my prices and I can, whatever it is.” It's like that might happen weeks or months down the track. And so then it's like, “Oh, that insecurity is gone. And wow, now there's an extra $20,000 in my bank account.” Or like, “Whoa, now I've got more in my savings account. I've never had this much savings in my account” or, “Oh my God, I'm paying off my mortgage faster than I ever thought.” Those types of things or, “I'm having a deeper relationship with my partner than I've ever had before, better orgasms.” It's like all of these things you might think they're unrelated, but actually it's how well are you able to receive from life, How well are you able to feel your emotions and think clearly while keeping your heart open at the same time. These things affect all areas of our life. And it's just such a profound experience to go through and a profoundly powerful tool to have that will put you in good stead for the rest of your life if you choose to continue to use it.
Bianca: Because you have the tool then, right.? So you can go back and bring up the little template and be like, “Oh, shift this around, shift that around.” And just as you were speaking then, I was like, “Oh my God!” If I really think about the stuff that's changing for me, even if I just look back at the past week where everyday there are multiple people asking for my services. I teach people sales and marketing, but I wasn't doing any sales and marketing to get them to go just randomly reach out to me, because I'm doing a great job, because I can help people get what they want faster, because I can diagnose it faster. But I think also for my own personal shifts, it's often been that thing of I can either be magical and holistic and true to myself, or I can make a lot of money. So now when I think about how I have my vast array of Native American flutes, you know, and I’ve been studying shamanism and my own indigenous cultures and all of that, I haven't had to let go of any of that. I'm doing it at my own pace.
And now I'm really realizing charging $2000 for a session, charging $2500 per session, $5000 for a half a day of consulting. People were reaching out to me for these mapping sessions and getting very, very quick results on the other end because of my high standard of delivery. People are seeking me out. And I know that kind of talk about, “You go through a quantum leap and then you make more money and then people will book you.” And I think it can be really, really cliche, but I don't want to focus on that part. I really want to focus on the part of like, “If you're just really good at delivering those transformations, people will seek you out.”
Kylie: 100 percent. And that's what I'm really about, becoming a custodian of this modality and this training and why it was important to me and why bringing you and Mei in to be a part of the leadership team and for us to be able to kind of be the co-custodians of this work. And it’s such an incredible group of like 300 plus practitioners who have kind of kept the fire alive and really continue to grow and develop the kind of energy of this modality. It's a thing. It's a powerful thing.
And what's been cool about this as well is that you've been able to create a map and a model utilizing energetic clearing and your incredible business expertise. And so these mapping sessions, this is a whole new aspect of the modality that now exists, that you've created.
Bianca: Yeah, because people pay me that money and then on the other side in their bricks and mortar business add an extra $200,000 to their bottom line that month alone. So $2500 per session is like not a single dent. $10k per day of consulting is like… the ripple effect happens a year and two years afterwards.
This was our 10-minute raving that we did that we can never keep the 10 minutes, but I'm going like break all this up into pieces because I think that we really helped people get the… And I hate now the word transmission, because essence is probably the better way to say it. It’s the enthusiasm, it's the emotion, it's the embodied conviction behind when you're saying these things that really speak volumes. I mean, if nothing else you’re just excited and you go “Hey, I just want to do your thing. Here's my credit card.” We can totally do that too.
Kylie: You could totally do that.
Bianca: Just put your credit card in the comments below,
Kylie: Just trust us. It's going to be amazing. It will change your life in wonderful ways. It's interesting, that kind of just do it perspective.
All the beautiful ways that we could just go, “You know what, it's going to be amazing. Just do it.” When I think about what you've done that’s so amazing is that you've really taken the systematic nature of the spiral and applied it to business and applied it to: How aligned is this? How congruent is this business offering? Your special genius is kind of really honing in on, “Hang on, that's out of whack there in your business. If you just change the name of this thing, or you just shifted this offering slightly, then it's going to flow much more smoothly.” And so that's like such an incredible application of The Spiral™ and the emotional clearing tools. It's so good.
Bianca: My next question was ... I know the main reason we got on here was to talk about how you've shifted and how you and Mei have shifted you're going to deliver this The Spiral.™ So when you think about the incredible practitioners who are out there right now and how the The Spiral™ has evolved itself by looping in some incredible facilitators in you, and Mei, what has changed about it now? And why did you decide to do that?
Kylie: Ah, I love this question.